Episode 53

Published on:

4th Jun 2024

The Overlooked Impact Of Worry On DEI Efforts With Frank Gonzalez

We’re delving into more complexities of DEI in the next episode of Communicate Like You Give A Damn. Host, Kim Clark, is joined by Frank Gonzalez, Ph.D., an expert Diversity Equity and Inclusion leaders they dive into Frank’s insights from his Hispanic heritage and the historical context of racial categorization, emphasizing the critical role of DEI in healthcare, where exclusion can have life-or-death consequences. Together they discuss the challenges and strategies for implementing DEI initiatives, including the importance of transparency and accountability along with how worry, psychological safety, and inclusive design can enhance workplace dynamics. Frank also highlights his journey, heavily influenced by women leaders, towards obtaining a doctoral degree focused on the impact of personality and birth order on leader-follower relationships.

About The Guest:

Frank is a DEI (Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion) and Leadership professional. He is an involved father and inspired husband. Frank has two decades of experience using evidence-based practices to solidify the qualitative experiences of employees in various public and corporate entities. His focus on relationship building models, along with his facilitation background, provide unique perspectives to experiential and practical application.

Frank holds a Doctor of Philosophy in Organizational Leadership & Management with emphases in Personality and In-Group/Out-Group relationships in the workplace (Leader and Employee relationships). He serves as Director | Equity, Inclusion, and Belonging for a QSR S&P 500 company. His love of continuous, enthusiastic learning is also the foundation of his DEI message, be curious.

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About Kim:

Kim Clark (she/her) focuses her work on the communicator and content creator's role in diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI). She is the co-author of The Conscious Communicator: The fine art of not saying stupid sh*t, an Amazon #1 bestseller and the leading voice for DEI communications and social justice messaging for brands.

She speaks at conferences, writes custom workshops, writes inclusive communications guides, and consults with companies on all things related to diversity, equity, and inclusion communications. Kim is a member of the LGBTQ+ community, a cisgender woman, Native American (Muscogee Nation) and a mom of two kids with disabilities. These marginalized identities and the privileges that come with society seeing her as White motivate her daily for social change.

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Communicate Like You Give A Damn
Welcome to Communicate Like You Give A Damn, where we dive deep into the world of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) and explore how communicators can effectively incorporate these principles into their strategies. We firmly believe that by positioning our companies well on social justice topics and adopting a DEI lens, we play a crucial role in the success of DEI initiatives within our organizations.

Your host, Kim Clark is not only a dynamic speaker and consultant but also a co-author of the Amazon number one bestseller, "The Conscious Communicator: The Fine Art of Not Saying Stupid Shit." While the title may make you think there will be plenty of swearing, it actually reflects our passion for helping communicators understand and apply diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) principles in their daily work.

Language, communication, engagement, and a compelling vision are the foundation of DEI, and that's what we'll be focusing on. It's time to move beyond performative communication and level up our approach to truly make a difference. Each episode, we bring you incredible guests who will share their personal stories and professional approaches, offering valuable insights and strategies to help us all become conscious communicators. Get ready to take notes because every episode contains a powerful message that will create a shift in your perspective.

Language leads to behavior so it's time to step up, communicate like You Give a Damn, and build a vibrant community of conscious communicators.

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Kim Clark

Kim Clark (she/her) works with leaders and communicators who are serious about learning and applying Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) to build strong teams and organizations.

She is the co-author of The Conscious Communicator: The fine art of not saying stupid sh*t, an Amazon #1 bestseller that features The DEPTH Model (TM). DEPTH is a strategic and proactive positional framework to guide organizations on DEI and social topics and messaging.

Her career spans documentary filmmaking, agency partnerships with the Discovery Channel, teaching at San Jose State University, and leading global internal communication teams at KLA, PayPal, GoDaddy, and GitHub. She is known for her ability to facilitate sensitive yet urgent conversations to make meaningful progress in creating inclusive workplaces.

She speaks at conferences, designs custom workshops, writes inclusive communications guides, and consults with leaders and companies on all things related to diversity, equity, and inclusion communications.